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CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 2008 <-- January 2008 <-- 23 January 2008Subject: Re: microsoft 3-button wheel mouse with OS X 10.5 From: mb1pja P {- dot -} Artymiuk {- at -} SHEFFIELD {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK Date: 2008-01-23 William Scott wrote > Aqua simply behaves by slightly different rules. Although I am a > slobbering OS X fan, this lack of customizability to me, as well as > a lack > of focus-follows-mouse, it a negative. To get focus-follows-mouse in Aqua, type the following in your Terminal window: defaults write com.apple.Terminal FocusFollowsMouse -string YES and then logout and log in again or quit and restart Terminal. I had thought I originally got that useful hint from your own fabulous PX on OSX pages but clearly not. best wishes Pete Artymiuk On 20 Jan 2008, at 15:39, William Scott wrote: > Hi David: > > david lawson (JIC) wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Sorry for the slightly off-topic subject. >> >> We have recently bought a few iMacs for crystallography. I'm not >> keen on >> the supplied "mighty mouse" > > May I have them? > >> so I have switched to using a microsoft >> 3-button wheel mouse. I would like to configure it so that it >> behaves as >> it would with other unix systems such as RH Linux. > > You managed to use "Microsoft", "behaved" and "Linux" (albeit RH) > all in > one sentence without a hint of irony. > > >> >> i.e. >> (1) double-clicking with LH button on a file name selects ALL of the >> file name, not just up to the first full stop. > > Although your choice of Microsoft products shows dedication to a > company > with a firm reputation for placing the customizability needs of its > customers ahead of its own desire to make profits, the first thing to > realize is that you should never ever ever install their drivers. > Ever. So > if you did, take them out, now, and reboot. I'll wait. It is still > early > Sunday morning here. > > >> (2) clicking the scroll wheel pastes the selected text AND it can be >> done multiple times without re-selecting. > > When you've gotten rid of the drivers, this should now work. In > Apple's > Terminal program (as of 10.5) and iTerm (as of 1215), you just set the > preference to do middle-button-paste and left-button select, and > Blair's > your uncle. Unfortunately, in pretty much every other application I > can > think of on OS X, this, sadly, does not work, and there is nothing > Steve > Gates will let you do about it. > > >> (2) I would like these functions to work in terminal windows, the >> ccp4i >> gui and web pages (and probably a few other things I haven't >> thought of >> yet!) AND be able to transfer the selected text between applications. > > I'd like to be at my ideal high-school weight, be paid more than a > postdoc, and, well ... Getting the OS X gui to play nice with X11 is > sometimes challenging. With the exception of Terminal and iTerm, > you have > to explicitly put stuff in the copy/paste buffer (command-C) before > it is > in the system clipboard. Then you can paste to X11 programs with a > middle-button click, but this only works if you uninstalled that viral > driver. Going from X11 to aqua programs requires selecting the text > in the > usual X11 manner but explicitly issuing the paste command (command- > p). If > you are using KDE X11 applications, you are really in for headaches. > > To get whole-string selection in iTerm or Terminal, there is a > preference > setting that allows you to input which characters you want to have > considered parts of a "word" for click-to-select purposes. > Unfortunately, > pretty much every other application lacks this customizability, and > I know > of no system-wide preference setting that would enable you to do this > globally. > > Aqua simply behaves by slightly different rules. Although I am a > slobbering OS X fan, this lack of customizability to me, as well as > a lack > of focus-follows-mouse, it a negative. > > If you really need the canonical linux behavior, you can install > gnome, > xfce4, KDE, enlightenment, or any number of other window managers via > fink. I've found KDE buggy and the XFCE4 is way out of date. Gnome is > probably the best bet, and there is a major effort now to bring it > completely up to date in fink. > >> >> I have installed the microsoft intellipoint drivers that seem to give >> more control over configuring the various buttons through "system >> preferences", but I still can't get what I want. > > Therein lies the problem, I am afraid. OS X will behave better using > the > default settings. It may be possible to tinker around with the > driver, > including separate settings in X11, to recover canonical behavior, > but for > purposes of sanity, uninstall them first, get everything working as > best > as possible, verify middle-button-paste works in X11, verify X11 > coot and > pymol do the right thing, and then if you need additional > functionality, > reinstall the drivers, verify things like coot and pymol still use the > middle button correctly, or adjust until they do, and only then try > customizing. > > Best of luck! > > > Bill > > > >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Dave Lawson >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> Dr. David M. Lawson >> Biological Chemistry Dept., >> John Innes Centre, >> Norwich, >> NR4 7UH, UK. >> Tel: +44-(0)1603-450725 >> Fax: +44-(0)1603-450018 >> Email: david.lawson@bbsrc.ac.uk >> Web: http://www.jic.bbsrc.ac.uk/staff/david-lawson/index.htm >> >> CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 2008 <-- January 2008 <-- 23 January 2008 |
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