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CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 2008 <-- February 2008 <-- 11 February 2008Subject: Re: microsoft 3-button wheel mouse with OS X 10.5 From: Ronnie Berntsson r {- dot -} berntsson {- at -} RUG {- dot -} NL Date: 2008-02-11 These commands does maybe not give you a full featured focus-follows- mouse, but it certainly makes your life easier if you work a lot in OS X and X11.. w defaults write com.apple.x11 wm_ffm -bool false defaults write com.apple.x11 wm_click_through -bool true These two commands should to the trick and save you quite some extra mouse clicks. Cheers, Ronnie On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:24 PM, William Scott wrote: > Yes, thanks, that does it for the Terminal.app, but not for any of the > rest. It would be great to have such a feature globally. > > mb1pja wrote: >> Dear Bill >> >> William Scott wrote >> >>> Aqua simply behaves by slightly different rules. Although I am a >>> slobbering OS X fan, this lack of customizability to me, as well as >>> a lack >>> of focus-follows-mouse, it a negative. >> >> >> To get focus-follows-mouse in Aqua, type the following in your >> Terminal window: >> >> defaults write com.apple.Terminal FocusFollowsMouse -string YES >> >> and then logout and log in again or quit and restart Terminal. >> >> I had thought I originally got that useful hint from your own >> fabulous >> PX on OSX pages but clearly not. >> >> >> >> best wishes >> >> Pete Artymiuk >> >> >> >> On 20 Jan 2008, at 15:39, William Scott wrote: >> >>> Hi David: >>> >>> david lawson (JIC) wrote: >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> Sorry for the slightly off-topic subject. >>>> >>>> We have recently bought a few iMacs for crystallography. I'm not >>>> keen on >>>> the supplied "mighty mouse" >>> >>> May I have them? >>> >>>> so I have switched to using a microsoft >>>> 3-button wheel mouse. I would like to configure it so that it >>>> behaves as >>>> it would with other unix systems such as RH Linux. >>> >>> You managed to use "Microsoft", "behaved" and "Linux" (albeit RH) >>> all in >>> one sentence without a hint of irony. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> i.e. >>>> (1) double-clicking with LH button on a file name selects ALL of >>>> the >>>> file name, not just up to the first full stop. >>> >>> Although your choice of Microsoft products shows dedication to a >>> company >>> with a firm reputation for placing the customizability needs of its >>> customers ahead of its own desire to make profits, the first thing >>> to >>> realize is that you should never ever ever install their drivers. >>> Ever. So >>> if you did, take them out, now, and reboot. I'll wait. It is still >>> early >>> Sunday morning here. >>> >>> >>>> (2) clicking the scroll wheel pastes the selected text AND it can >>>> be >>>> done multiple times without re-selecting. >>> >>> When you've gotten rid of the drivers, this should now work. In >>> Apple's >>> Terminal program (as of 10.5) and iTerm (as of 1215), you just set >>> the >>> preference to do middle-button-paste and left-button select, and >>> Blair's >>> your uncle. Unfortunately, in pretty much every other application I >>> can >>> think of on OS X, this, sadly, does not work, and there is nothing >>> Steve >>> Gates will let you do about it. >>> >>> >>>> (2) I would like these functions to work in terminal windows, the >>>> ccp4i >>>> gui and web pages (and probably a few other things I haven't >>>> thought of >>>> yet!) AND be able to transfer the selected text between >>>> applications. >>> >>> I'd like to be at my ideal high-school weight, be paid more than a >>> postdoc, and, well ... Getting the OS X gui to play nice with X11 >>> is >>> sometimes challenging. With the exception of Terminal and iTerm, >>> you have >>> to explicitly put stuff in the copy/paste buffer (command-C) before >>> it is >>> in the system clipboard. Then you can paste to X11 programs with a >>> middle-button click, but this only works if you uninstalled that >>> viral >>> driver. Going from X11 to aqua programs requires selecting the text >>> in the >>> usual X11 manner but explicitly issuing the paste command (command- >>> p). If >>> you are using KDE X11 applications, you are really in for headaches. >>> >>> To get whole-string selection in iTerm or Terminal, there is a >>> preference >>> setting that allows you to input which characters you want to have >>> considered parts of a "word" for click-to-select purposes. >>> Unfortunately, >>> pretty much every other application lacks this customizability, and >>> I know >>> of no system-wide preference setting that would enable you to do >>> this >>> globally. >>> >>> Aqua simply behaves by slightly different rules. Although I am a >>> slobbering OS X fan, this lack of customizability to me, as well as >>> a lack >>> of focus-follows-mouse, it a negative. >>> >>> If you really need the canonical linux behavior, you can install >>> gnome, >>> xfce4, KDE, enlightenment, or any number of other window managers >>> via >>> fink. I've found KDE buggy and the XFCE4 is way out of date. >>> Gnome is >>> probably the best bet, and there is a major effort now to bring it >>> completely up to date in fink. >>> >>>> >>>> I have installed the microsoft intellipoint drivers that seem to >>>> give >>>> more control over configuring the various buttons through "system >>>> preferences", but I still can't get what I want. >>> >>> Therein lies the problem, I am afraid. OS X will behave better using >>> the >>> default settings. It may be possible to tinker around with the >>> driver, >>> including separate settings in X11, to recover canonical behavior, >>> but for >>> purposes of sanity, uninstall them first, get everything working as >>> best >>> as possible, verify middle-button-paste works in X11, verify X11 >>> coot and >>> pymol do the right thing, and then if you need additional >>> functionality, >>> reinstall the drivers, verify things like coot and pymol still use >>> the >>> middle button correctly, or adjust until they do, and only then try >>> customizing. >>> >>> Best of luck! >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Any help would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> >>>> Dave Lawson >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Dr. David M. Lawson >>>> Biological Chemistry Dept., >>>> John Innes Centre, >>>> Norwich, >>>> NR4 7UH, UK. >>>> Tel: +44-(0)1603-450725 >>>> Fax: +44-(0)1603-450018 >>>> Email: david.lawson@bbsrc.ac.uk >>>> Web: http://www.jic.bbsrc.ac.uk/staff/david-lawson/index.htm >>>> >>>> >> CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 2008 <-- February 2008 <-- 11 February 2008 |
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