Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

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Subject: Re: Vista
From: Flip Hoedemaeker flip {- at -} KEYDP {- dot -} COM
Date: 2008-02-21

This actually pops up a question on a somewhat related issue, I've recently
tried to install Fedora 8 on a virtual PC, but I get caught up with the
video display being completely warped. Since I don't see anything I cannot
even begin to troubleshoot the issue. Has anybody got a solution for this?

Flip

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Iain
Kerr
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:45
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

Deena,

A lot of this comes down to personal preference at the end of the
day..you just have to find what works for you.

I primarily use MacOSX and Linux. I also have a Vista partition on my
laptop to share Microsoft office files with others in the department
that use Windows or Macs..no comment on crystallography applications,
but I think Vista is a regression from XP and I do not particularly
enjoy using it.

Linux has, obviously, been very well supported by software developers
for many years...pre-compiled binaries for the popular flavours are
mostly available and, with the odd afternoon bashing (no pun intended)
your head off the monitor excluded, is fairly logical once you get to
grips with it. Fedora/RedHat and Ubuntu are both excellent
distributions...I'm currently using Fedora 8 on a (fairly new) Dell XPS
M1330 and it mostly worked out-the-box.

In my opinion MacOSX falls short in package managers..fink, in my humble
opinion, is vastly inferior to yum and apt..although this may be partly
down to my inability to dedicate the time required to truly get to grips
with the program. Also, I much prefer GNOME (got to have those multiple
desktops) over QUARTZ (MacOSX), although with some work you can get
GNOME running on a Mac..

Bill Scott provides excellent support for crystallography applications
on MacOSX and, I believe, debian-based distros like Ubuntu so you should
refer to him on those.

Gentoo is also well supported, I think..apologies for not remembering
who labors on this and if any of this is repetitious..

Gently fanning the embers,
Iain

Anastassis Perrakis wrote:
>
>
> Vista or XP, I shamelessly admit that I personally totally fail to see
> why - ideology left aside - I would ever buy a *laptop* which is not a
> Mac.
>
> Even for the fact that when a Mac is "asleep" you open the cover and
> it actually comes up in 1 sec, exactly where it was last evening, its
> worth it !
>
> I run MS Office (I actually do like Word), iWork (Keynote is what PP
> might some day be ... Pages is great for eg posters),
> iLife for home, Coot, O, CCP4, Phenix, ARP/wARP, Solve/Resolve,
> Phaser, Pymol, Papers (!!! a dream that will not come true for
> Windows-based scientists - http://mekentosj.com/), R, Adobe and all
> work. And you also have Xcode, the GUI builder, management tools, and
> others for development.
>
> For the last 4 years I use a G4 as my laptop which is also my desktop
> with external monitor and keyboard/mouse -
> I have dropped it a couple of times, have been around the world, still
> works. I only switched to Macs in 2001 and I am still happy.
>
> And I did not even mention that it LOOKS better ;-))
>
>
>
> Apologies for not answering the original question, but the discussion
> was drifting this way.
>
> I am now waiting to see what Vista can do that Windows cannot. I am
> aware of one application I want and does not run on a Mac,
> and that is the Polar Fitness software for my bike. Argh. Most spyware
> and virus detection software also do not run in a Mac btw!
> For a reason: you do not need them dudes !
>
> A.
>
> PS And no, I don't work for Apple, I don't get free gifts from Apple,
> but if Steve is reading and he wants to send me a Mac Air for my kind
> words, please, go ahead ! ;-)))

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